MLAs have voted 10 to six in favour of holding a public inquiry into the 2023 wildfires following a Feb. 22 debate in the legislative assembly.
All regular MLAs who were present voted in favour while cabinet voted against the motion, which was originally put forward Feb. 9 by Range Lake MLA Kieron Testart and seconded by Dehcho MLA Sheryl Yakeleya, whose riding includes the hamlet of Enterprise, which was heavily damaged by a wildfire.
Inuvik-Boot Lake MLA Denny Rodgers and Yellowknife South MLA Caroline Wawzonek were absent from the House. Speak of the house Shane Thompson did not cast a vote. The decision now goes back to cabinet to follow or ignore the motion.
Under the Public Inquiries Act, the commissioner of the NWT would oversee the inquiry, while cabinet would appoint two members to the commission and two regular MLAs would be appointed. Monfwi MLA Jane Weyallon-Armstrong introduced two amendments to allow the council of leaders, comprised of Indigenous governments, to appoint two additional members to the commission. In support of the motion, Yellowknife Centre MLA Robert Hawkins said the goal of regular members was to make the process as inclusive as possible. He added he felt the people of the NWT deserved an apology for SA国际影视传媒渨hat they went through.SA国际影视传媒�
Frame Lake MLA Julian Morse then made a motion to reduce the number of appointments from six members to three, permitting the standing committee, cabinet and council of Elders to make one appointment each. Yakeleya added a motion for a report to be tabled upon completion. Great Slave MLA Kate Reid introduced a motion that SA国际影视传媒渆stablish a safe disclosure opportunities for people to share information.SA国际影视传媒�
The amending motions all passed with support of all regular members. Cabinet abstained from voting on motions introduced to modify the original motion. The vote on the inquiry followed a lively debate in the assembly, where regular MLAs criticized the evacuation in its entirety.
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At the start of the debate, Testart said the GNWT needed the public inquiry to restore public trust.
SA国际影视传媒淚 have heard the argument that this public inquiry will result in too much blame and criticism without offering much insight to the government, to the public or to this assembly,SA国际影视传媒� he said. SA国际影视传媒淭o that I say this perspective is a gross underestimation of the contribution the public has to offer and the independence a public inquiry can offer. The people of the Northwest Territories lived through the crisis, many work to support their family, friends and neighbours to get through it. Their knowledge is crucial if we want to move forward and prepare for the future, and their trust is key, if we want to work together through the next crisis.
SA国际影视传媒淣obody knew if there was a plan to evacuate, especially if fires closed down the highway or heavy smoke prevented flights from taking off. In addition, the capital city is the most important supply hub for the Northwest Territories. Other communities fear that they would not get their groceries they need to feed their communities, fuel and other essential supplies. There is trust concerns in the Northwest Territories. There are people who feel they cannot speak to their MLAs sometimes without full anonymity.SA国际影视传媒�
He added a commission would be transparent, while saying the engagement process underway by Municipal and Community Affairs (MACA) and the contracted out review by Environment and Climate Change would have the SA国际影视传媒済overnmentSA国际影视传媒檚 hands on it.SA国际影视传媒�
Premier R.J. Simpson cautioned members not to frame the situation as a SA国际影视传媒済ood versus evilSA国际影视传媒� debate.
He said the GNWTSA国际影视传媒檚 Public Inquires Act is decades old and would not give the public the results it would want. Among the limitations he listed were an inability in the act for the GNWT to set a budget or limit how long the inquiry could be in progress.
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Noting a public inquiry is similar to a court trial, Simpson said the conflict of interest inquiry into former MLA Steve Norn cost $800,000 and didnSA国际影视传媒檛 heal anything.
He added that a public inquiry on television would prevent people testifying from being anonymous.
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Environment and Climate Change Minister Jay Macdonald praised first responders and public servants for their dedication during the wildfire evacuations.
He said public safety officers were making the best decisions they were able to with the information they had available.
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SA国际影视传媒淭he wildland firefighting community in Canada is a very small one. In 2023 we lost seven firefighters and one of our own here in the Northwest Territories. Adam Yeadon was killed by a falling tree while protecting his community.SA国际影视传媒�
Saying an inquiry was punitive in nature and would be looking for someone to blame, Macdonald said an after-action review would have more productive results.
Noting he was fighting both wildfires and the flooding in Hay River, MACA Minister Vince McKay said he started the departmentSA国际影视传媒檚 investigation as soon as he was named to the portfolio.
He noted the last inquiry in Yellowknife cost nearly $1 million. He said the public needed to understand the difference between an independent review and a public inquiry.
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McKay added that while residents in Yellowknife have been able to go home, Hay River is still rebuilding. He said an inquiry would pull funds away from the rebuilding process.
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Reid said the people deserve to find out why the GNWT made the decisions that it did, but said the inquiry would need a strong terms of reference.
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Saying she has heard from Indigenous governments that they support a public inquiry, Weyallon-Armstrong noted that not only were four million hectares of land lost to the wildfires, but also many SA国际影视传媒渁nimal babies were burned.SA国际影视传媒�
SA国际影视传媒漃eople want to be heard,SA国际影视传媒� she said. SA国际影视传媒淭hey want to know what happened. We cannot forget, we cannot repeat.
SA国际影视传媒淣one of the Indigenous governments were consulted They were not consulted, the GNWT had a lack of emergency coordination with the Indigenous governments. Twenty-eight communities were abandoned. The sad part, I just live down the road from here, 104 kilometers. The premier of the day drove by my community, did not even stop to talk to the leaders or to myself to see how the people are doing. Nothing like that. No communication.
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Tu Nedh茅-Wiilideh MLA Richard Edjericon lamented the closing of forestry lookout towers. He noted that he was unable to communicate with his family for five days.
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SA国际影视传媒淎 lot of people were displaced when the GNWT pulled the trigger to evacuate. We had Elders who didnSA国际影视传媒檛 know what was going on. I had to help three Elders. I had to go find three wheelchairs. I wonSA国际影视传媒檛 tell you where I got them from.
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Chaotic fallout
Mackenzie Delta MLA George Nerysoo said even some of his constituents were displaced by the wildfire evacuation and the effective shut down of government that resulted.
SA国际影视传媒淭here was an elderly couple that came to Yellowknife during that evacuation process,SA国际影视传媒� he said. SA国际影视传媒淲hile they were in Yellowknife for medical they get an order that theySA国际影视传媒檙e being medevaced. The family members from Aklavik could not find them. They had no idea where they were they were, searching, trying to follow them and in the meantime, they were in Calgary.
SA国际影视传媒淭he region was completely shut down because the government was shut down. They had people that are supposed to go on medical travel, people supposed to go on other appointments, but due to the government being shut down, these individuals were not able to keep their appointments.SA国际影视传媒�
Yellowknife North MLA Shauna Morgan suggested a third path by appointing an independent panel. She said by passing a motion to demand a public inquiry, it could press cabinet to appoint an independent review team.
She used the 2017 B.C. wildfires as an example, noting the report produced 108 recommendations and compelled the B.C. government to respond. MACA should be left out of the review, she contended, because people would be nervous about testifying against their bosses.
SA国际影视传媒淚SA国际影视传媒檝e heard from some in leadership positions that a MACA after-action review is sufficient because sure there were some missteps but the evacuations were a success because no one died, at least not before they left the NWT,SA国际影视传媒� she said. SA国际影视传媒淪ure there was a little bit of confusion but we just need to iron out the details and carry on. I think this perspective is profoundly disconnected from how most of us experienced last summerSA国际影视传媒檚 emergencies.
SA国际影视传媒淗onestly, this narrative usually slips into the realm of platitudes and excuses like everyone did their best. It was unprecedented. No one could have ever predicted Yellowknife would have to evacuate and we couldnSA国际影视传媒檛 control what Alberta did. These may have some truth behind them, but this kind of narrative doesnSA国际影视传媒檛 sound like itSA国际影视传媒檚 leading us towards a serious reckoning with the oversights and failures and challenges,SA国际影视传媒� said Morgan.
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